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72ShlongBed

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Hey guys, so when i got my truck it had cut c10 coils all around and it was sitting on the rubber bump stops all around, the previous owner gave me the stock coils with the truck, today i decided to swap em back in, after getting everything bolted up and set back on the ground its super stiff, seems there is no travel, motor is in (big block) so im kind of baffled why it's not moving at all? anyone have any ideas?
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wallew

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72,

Does it have the shocks installed.
Also, which springs were installed where?  Were the longer ones installed in the front or rear?  It does make a difference.

Plus, the engine is in, but what about the tranny?  Does it have all the Body installed or is this on the bare frame?  If the body IS on, how is it reacting when you bounce in the bed, etc.

Last, are you SURE these are the correct coils for your truck?  Just because the previous owner gave them to you, he could have gotten an incorrect set.  OR they could have been heated (like with an Oxy Torch), which would have changed their ability to work properly.

Regardless of the above, check with LMC Trucks.  On the bottom left of page 61 (prices on page 60) are a full set of coils for $129.99 plus s&h.  As you have a big block installed, I would purchase the 396 set of coil springs, they are $139.99 plus s&h.

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cb/full.aspx?Page=61

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cb/full.aspx?Page=60

THAT would give you a known good place to start.  Also note that the front coils are much taller than the rears.  At least in the diagrams.

LMC Trucks is your friend.  They will send you a current catalog for free.

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72ShlongBed

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Shocks are installed, they are fine, I know these are the original front coils as i compared them to another 72 c20, i have Performance online rear 4"  drop coils in the rear.

The engine and trans are installed along with the core support and radiator, no inner fenders/fenders or hood though but i don't think it would still be this stiff if something wasn't right, also trust me if i had the funds I'd be hitting up LMC for a new front set or POL for the matching front coils to the rears.

they aren't heated either, no heat spots and equal spacing between all the coils on the springs.

its acting like something is hung up but i cant see what or where it could be.

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wallew

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72,

Man, that's a mystery.  That is the reason I suggested new coils.  And being short on funds for a vehicle repair is where I live.  I never start a project until I have ALL the parts I need already purchased.

I have one project left on my Dodge Magnum.  I'm replacing the interior.  I HAVE the interior that came out of a donor Dodge Magnum R/T.  It's much nicer than my SXT interior.  Everything has been swapped and put into my car except for the front seats.  I HAVE all the parts but have not had the time to actually install the front seats.  I will have the time in the next few weeks and this part of the project will be done.

Last part of the 'upgrading' my car is a Dodge Nav System.  Hey, along the theme of being short on funds, I just don't have the $1500 for the system I want.  I'll save the money and eventually it will be installed and that will be the last thing for this project.

Hey, it's only money, right?

Frustrating as it can be, never fear, this too will eventually get done the correct way.

jim

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72ShlongBed

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Actually when I bought this rig it was supposed to be a daily driver I could replace part by part as I could get the parts but the previous didn't do a mediocre job so first the rear end blew up then after $400 for the drive line shop to install a set of 4:11 gears and a posi i made a trade for.

after months I got to go register it and on the way home the motor went to shit, so I had to get a new one and since no funds I had to trade a custom built AR for a mildly built 396.

Also since I don't have any concrete to work on and doing all the work solo I had to take the front clip off to roll the truck from under the motor and back under to install the new one.

while taking apart the front clip I discovered no proper core support mounts, less than half the hardware holding the fenders on and some other things, I was able to make my own core support mounts with some poly bushings I had laying around and i ordered the fender hardware kit from lmc so I was able to install the inner fenders that weren't in it because he had cut small block c10 coils in it.

I absolutely hate cutting coils but i lobbed off one ring off each stock coil to try and get it to the rear height, its close but sitting a little pre runner ish at the moment, til i can order a front suspension kit at least.

It's hard to try and do all this stuff I've never done before the correct way without any help other than scanning the interweb and watching any gearz/trucks episodes of these trucks to see how to do it right, its different when stacey builds from new parts that go together fairly straight compared to some  old used panels that are warped, I had to actually add a spacer to the passenger side core support mount to make the bottom of the fender clear the door so it would open and the body line is half way straight. 

i just hope someday i can order the parts i need to in order to do it proper because at the moment im trying to make due with what little i have in both parts and knowledge.
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wallew

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I honestly do understand.  AND having to trade a custom AR hurts, but at least you had SOMETHING to sell and could keep your truck on the road.
When we bought our first house back in 1988 it was inspected and had to have some work done.  We were tapped out.  So I traded two FN FAL rifles, but I HAD them so the work got done.  That was 28 years ago.  You sometimes do things that at the time hurt financially, but in the long run, keep things on an even keel.  YOU CAN ALWAYS replace that AR when you are 'flush' again in the future.

Hope you get your truck the way you see it in your minds eye. 

'all the rest is silence'

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Kurganhunter

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I just have this strange feeling after reading all of the posts that the"stock" springs you were given were mixes up with another of the old owners projects and are not the correct springs. I know it's not ideal but, how about getting a Daystar 2" spacer kit and going back to the other coils + the spacers. That would get you out of the weeds and save your spine until you get the parts you need. Another solution is to buy an aftermarket lift kit. They are sometimes less expensive than stock replacements. Check Rock Auto too for stock. Best of luck
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